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The “Ugly face” of the ECI: Arrest of Hari Prasad for “sting demonstration”

Today, at wee hours Maharashtra police landed up at the residence of Hari Prasad in Hyderabad, a technologist and Technical coordinator of VeTA to arrest him. The arrest was made on the flimsy charge of ‘theft of EVM’ used for vulnerability demonstration by Hari Prasad and a team of security researchers that included Alex Halderman, professor of computer science, University of Michigan and Rop Gonggrijp, a security researcher from Netherlands along with a team of their colleagues.

Earlier, police came to Hyderabad in the first week of August and recorded a statement on the EVM they had used for exposing the vulnerability of EVMs. They summoned him to Mumbai for further questioning. Hari Prasad could not go as he was busy with his professional work. Then, the sudden arrest happened this morning.

Over the past one year, the Election Commission of India (ECI) has been lying blatantly and willfully to ensure continued use of EVMs at all costs. It attributed all kinds of qualities to its EVMs: “totally tamper proof, perfect, fail safe and requiring no improvement” etc. etc. When Hari Prasad agreed to meet the ECI’s challenge to demonstrate tamperability of EVMs, the ECI backed out imposing silly, unscientific restrictions.

To call the ECI’s bluff, Hari Prasad and team have demonstrated the tamperability of EVMs on an EVM made available to them. This is like a sting operation carried out by media organizations. If the stings done by media are a legitimate method of information gathering, so is this sting demonstration. There cannot be separate standards for separate groups. In both cases, public interest is paramount. Moreover, the world over this is the practice followed by security researchers to expose vulnerabilities of absurd claims of “perfect” and “tamper proof” electronic voting systems. The details of this sting demonstration are available at www.indiaEVM.org

For the ECI, the following developments threatening EVM exit seem to have caused unbearable stress.

-         13 political parties had written to the ECI in April expressing concerns about the reliability of EVMs and urging the ECI to organize an All-party meeting. The ECI has not responded to this request so far.

-         In Telangana bypoll held last month to 12 assembly constituencies, the TRS had fielded a large number of dummy candidates to avoid use of EVMs. The ECI was thus forced to use ballot papers in 5 of the 12 constituencies where byolls were held.

-         Last week, international experts in computer security have concluded in a workshop held in Washington D.C on August 9 and 10 that the Indian EVMs do not provide the security, verifiability, or transparency adequate for confidence in election results, the Election Commission of India. (Read the letter here:

http://www.usenix.org/events/evtwote10/final-letter-eci.pdf)

This workshop was attended by ECI’s expert committee chairman P.V. Indiresan and election commissioner Dr. Alok Shukla. Along with these ECI’s representatives, I had also participated in a panel discussion with these ECI representatives. ECI’s arguments were completely trashed by an independent team of security researchers. The audio of the panel discussion can be heard at this link:

http://josephhall.org/misc/indian-evm-panel-evtwote.mp3

All the above developments have clearly unnerved the Election Commission.

On August 10, the ECI had invited V.V.Rao, National Coordinator of VeTA along with Hari Prasad to discuss about the vulnerabilities of Indian EVMs. The chief election commissioner S.Y. Quraishi and commissioner V.S. Sampath have sought suggestions from Hari Prasad on how the EVMs could be strengthened. They said that they were willing to make improvements and are keen to understand what all improvements were needed.

Reliable sources tell us that the Election Commission of India had pressurized the Maharashtra police to press for Hari Prasad’s arrest on charges of stealing the EVM used for exposing the vulnerability of EVMs. The ECI’s intent becomes evident from the fact that they had instructed the police not to share a copy of the FIR with Hari Prasad to deny him an opportunity to move an anticipatory bail application. Hari Prasad did mange to get a copy of the FIR later but decided to court arrest if necessary rather than seek anticipatory bail.

What is the Election Commission of India trying to do? Does it think that it can intimidate critics of EVMs? What interests is the ECI trying to protect by resorting to such repressive actions? Has the Election Commission of India got skeletons in its cupboards that it is seeking to protect any damaging disclosures?

Worldwide, vulnerabilities of electronic voting systems are exposed in exactly the same manner as was done by researchers in India. Nowhere have the election bodies used such repressive steps to intimidate critics.

With its desperate actions, the ECI stands totally exposed and is betraying signs of losing the “EVM battle”. While earlier the ECI seemed only guilty of being ignorant about the vulnerabilities of EVMs, the latest actions raise question marks about the integrity and intent of the ECI.

In the ongoing battle for reforming the ballot (voting) system, fast paced developments are expected in the coming weeks. In the face of this adversity, as we double our efforts on all fronts, there is unstinted support forthcoming from all quarters.

Finally, the stage is now set for a renewed legal battle in the Hon’ble Supreme Court of India. With all the evidence now available and the statements from experts in computer security, defending the EVMs is becoming as difficult for the ECI as the unbridled bungling in Common Wealth Games (CWG).

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66 Responses to “The “Ugly face” of the ECI: Arrest of Hari Prasad for “sting demonstration””

  1. lenin Says:

    The ECI ugly action itself shows the that EvMs haveen manipulated and it is in fear of being exposed.Fair and honest elections are lifine to demcracy.the elections should be conducted in transparent and verifiable manner.Black box voting is unconstittuinal and is dangerous to democracy.Black box model DRE voting is unconstitutional as this voting process is secret to voter himself!!!!Unless papaer trails are used these are cheating machines.I want to know whether my vote really casted to my candiadate.Even if those machines are honest they have technical failures due to lot of other factors effect on electronic divices.Many polling stations showed the failure of EVMs in middle.Votes polled upto then were reset and deleted !!!.ECI actions shows its fear of being exposed.Truth can not be suppressed for ever.There are millions of people to in support of Hariprasad.What more can ECI do in democracy where people active and protest.I will be ready to be the next person to continue fight against black voting.Elcetions are for the people and democracy not for the employment of public sector EVM assembling companies like ECIL , BEL and not for those american back end chip making companies which get billion doller contracts.I support Hari prasad.ECI ahs used older EVMs in andhra which does not have time stamp!!then this EVM data can be erased in seconds and freshly voted in two hours using a multi meter like divice as ballot unit!!!

  2. Arunkumar Says:

    ECI has once again proved beyond doubts that we are living in a camouflaged Aristocracy rather than Democracy; it’s pathetic to see the most supreme body of India to resort to such a heinous act. Now is the time for all those Technically qualified Indians to come forward to support the cause Mr. Hari Prasad has started. This act of unwarranted arrest is an axe to the so called democracy. Please join hands to save India

  3. Surendera M. Bhanot Says:

    The story is very disturbing. I urge the RTI Activists to file RTI Applications with all those matters in this case to expose their designs. This is a another blow to the “Whistle-Blower”.

  4. Sujeet Says:

    ECI has to answer the question of vulnerability of the electronic balloting system. Staging this kind of arrest of a person who is only trying to strengthen the system is foolish and illegal. Any weakness in the election system can easily be exploited by the political party in power. This will not serve the democratic system.

  5. Dinesh Chanchalani Says:

    This is totally shocking! And expected!
    Shame on the ECI, which has become part of the sycophant brigade!!

  6. B. Rajendran Says:

    Shame. Govt. officers are ambassadors between people and government. But, once they entered into public service in all level and all departments,they are acting as a masters. The government servants should be separated from the politicians a law.

  7. Kalpesh Sharma Says:

    Hariprasad is arrested… This proves now very clearly that EVM’s were truely tampered and the election commission of india is now misusing their powers by arresting the common indian citizens.

    I have a doubt? Has Indian Citizens got independence where such misuse of powers and position are being done? I think that pre-1947, we were ruled by Britishers and post-1947 Congress is ruling us? And we Indian Fools are celebrating 15th August with great hapiness. This question is for every Indian Citizen: Are you truely and honestly speaking living in a democratic and Independant Country? Ask your children this question? You will get the answer for yourself.

    Congress has come upto this level of doing the crime and misusing their powers on general public. I never assumed this. Now it seems like this message should be sent to every citizen across the nation. And who the hell is this ECI Chief Election Commissioner?

  8. B. Rajendran Says:

    # B. Rajendran Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    August 22nd, 2010 at 6:52 AM

    Shame. Govt. officers are ambassadors between people and government. But, once they entered into public service in all level and all departments,they are acting as a masters. The government servants should be separated from the politicians by law.

  9. Saurabh Adhikari Says:

    EVMs are not tamper-proof anywhere..from India to the US. We need to make them better. Improved them as best as we can and that depends on who all may help us by understanding its vulnerabilities. As a CEC, I would have asked Hari Prasad and others to be part of an inclusive ECI team instead of harassing t=him and others. Unless one has something to hide, such actions discredit national institutions. Its likely that they may have a “WMD” like case against Hari Prasad. But haven’t we learnt that the abuse of power can put the whole world at risk? Hari Prasad has done well to take the stance he has taken and it may help expose ECI further.

  10. Lenin Babu Says:

    The pillars of Democracy are its Institutions. If this institution (ECI) does not come clean on this episode… people will loose faith in the democratic system. Why ECI doesn’t want to accept shortcomings in its EVMs and come clean?

    Many countries have abolished EVMs due to the possibilities of manipulation. Why don’t we revert back to Paper Balloting till EVM are probed by by a committee of members from all National and Regional Parties?

  11. Sanjay Says:

    EVMs are better than paper ballots.

    That’s all that matters.

    How many people in India have the technical expertise to hack an EVM in the manner disclosed in your “sting” ? 5 ? 10 ?

    Do you really want us to go back to the dirty old days of booth capturing and ballot stuffing ?

    You Sir, are a fear-monger.

  12. kakim Says:

    The instruction would have come from both Home Ministry and the ECI to arrest Hariprasad. The government should ban these EVMs immediately.

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  14. Narasimha Rao Says:

    Dear Mr. Sanjay,

    Like you, until some months ago, we all thoughts that EVMs were a good thing that happened. But the facts that have surfaced and the international developments show that we were unwise and uninformed. There is plenty of evidence now which shows that EVMs pose a threat. All over the world EVMs like the one we are using have been rejected..Germany, Netherlands, Ireland and most states in the U.S. to name a few. Come on, should we not be alert to such dangers to democracy? Should we merely trust them because they are machines? With paper ballots, you know booth capturing has happened because ordinary voters can see. How would you know if electronic booth capturing happens in an invisible manner. Paperless voting has been rejected all over the world and India has to follow suit. Is in’t better to safeguard yourself (even if it earns the epithet of fear mongering) rather than be shocked to find yet another scam in a country where they happen routinely. Wake up to the hard realities, my friend. Look up at our website to get more details.

  15. Pawan Says:

    Mr. Sanjay, you said

    “EVMs are better than paper ballots.
    That’s all that matters.
    How many people in India have the technical expertise to hack an EVM in the manner disclosed in your “sting” ? 5 ? 10 ?
    Do you really want us to go back to the dirty old days of booth capturing and ballot stuffing ?
    You Sir, are a fear-monger.”

    But why arrest the person who is trying to get the authorities’ attention to perfect the machine? That looks like bullying by the powerful. Who is really spreading fear here? The powerful. You must be one of them Mr. Sanjay.

  16. Deepak Says:

    We agree with the above findings. It was very evident that scam has existing for last 5 years. The first misuse is seen in 2004 election.

    I am also victim of one Scam in which I have lost my life savings due to congress.

  17. Augosto Pinochet Says:

    Looks like we are heading for the days of emergency of 1975. Congress party consists of mainly Nehruvian Stalinists who want to keep thier hold on power no matter what the cost.

    One Hari Prasad may be arrested and silenced, but there are many more Hari Prasads in our country who will keep the flag of Indian democracy high.

    God bless India

  18. Jo Dean Says:

    Stupid cops, go arrest the REAL crooks, the politicians themselves!

    Lou
    http://www.privacy-tools.eu.tc

  19. Bharat Says:

    GVL boss,

    You guys have done a great job, now I guess it is upto the political setup in India to continue on the great work and get rid of evm’s. I have one question though it might seem out of context. You have a 13 party memorandum on EVM’s. Did you have any success in getting more parties to sign it. I am surprised that TRS, BSP and many others have still not signed it. But irrespective of that, roping in more parties for this cause will do it good, wont it??

  20. Manish Says:

    I request this website to start a petition demanding the release of Mr. Hari Prasad ASAP.

  21. dharmendra Says:

    There is no coverage of this news by any media channel …

    we owe the responsibility to spread this news ….

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  23. Doug Webb Says:

    Sounds like free and fair elections do not and cannot happen in India. Too bad the world’s largest democracy isn’t!

  24. v Says:

    Im from Florida in the US, remember what happened in Florida. The EVM’s in florida had results where certain races there were undervotes where no vote was recorded in certain races in some races up to 5% undervote other people complained that touched one candidate button only to have the other show up. Florida is a fairly honest state but in the year 2000 , the margin that elected Bush was only 535 votes in Florida.

    This was such an issue(with the lack of a paper receipt) that Florida in 2006 switched from touchscreen EVM to optical scan balloting where people would mark on paper ballots which would be scanned into the computers.

  25. a b Says:

    The very fact that the EVMs can be compromised brings into question all the election results.
    @Pawan…it’s not a question of how many people can do it. The question is are politicians “capable” of doing. Why not? Election Commission of India should use the wisdom of the researchers in making these EVMs better and not shoot the messenger!

  26. Bala Says:

    Guys,
    this is how congi won in andhra last time, no way they cld have got 33 of 42 seats in lok sabha. it is ok to use EVM, but what is the proof that the button i press registers the vote for the party i actually am voting for, we need a print receipt like ATM or some other proof to show that the vote went for the correct party

  27. Jaidev Says:

    This is India. Are you surprised? The bureaucrats and politicians supposed to be running the show have no clue about technology, free speech, or human rights. Money runs the show.

    Don’t rock the boat, pay your friendly politicians and policemen their monthly bribes, shut up and get to work. And we dare dream of challenging China.

  28. dnate Says:

    where do i donate?

  29. Moosia Says:

    Follow the money. Find out how who stands to benefit from EMV implementations, and see how it’s tied to the EC.

  30. Ram Kumar Says:

    Any type of Black Box electronic voting system can and will always be manipulated.

    The Indian EVM’s can be easily made more reliable by adding a simple ticket printer that prints a small ballot with:

    1. Election symbol of the candidate
    2. Name of the candidate

    Then the voter can verify the vote and drop it in the vote box. Tabulation can be made both electronically and by counting the vote tickets. This will create a fool proof voting system.

    Conditions for Real Democracy
    ——————————
    For real democracy to exist the following conditions are required:

    1. Real currency system, means the currency issuer has obligation to supply the quantity of commodity “that will sustain life” eg. food, mentioned on the currency on resumption of the currency.

    2. Largest 3 media companies in the country should be owned by public membership. ie. Any adult citizen can buy a single membership and vote in electing the management of the media company.

    3. All political parties should be membership based and the membership fee should be sufficient for the functioning of the political party without accepting donations.

    4. Teaching staff in the Universities of the country should reflect the same approximate demographic proportion as the general population. If we allow any ethic group to exceed their numeric strength as university teachers – through nepotism they will put their kin in key bureaucratic positions and eventually take control of the government and subvert democracy.

    5. 90% literacy rate among the population of the country.

  31. संदीप नारायण शेळके Says:

    Namaste Shri Rao,
    I show my support to Shri Hari Prasad and will try my level best to bring this to the wider public.

    Can I use your article for republishing it on blog?

    Dhanywad!

    Jai Bharat!

  32. Amitabh Ranjan Says:

    Can someone please provide a link to the ECI feedback page (or similar) so that readers can post comments to them protesting against this ?

  33. ashok pai Says:

    this is government subverting democracy at its best

  34. SS Says:

    As unacceptable as the arrest is, I agree with Sanjay …. Anyone who has lived through the days of booth-capturing, rigging, false voting etc. can vouch for the comparitive improvement today.

    Yes, EVMs can be tampered with (and thanks to you guys to bringing it out in the public eye – real proof beyond the mere unsupported claims till then) – but it requires technology that has not yet made it mainstream in India – and for now it largely works. Margins of victory are closing in, we observe manifestations of incumbency (and voter apathy) in almost every election – and in general we hear much less of guns during elections than we used to!

    Unsurprisingly, the major parties you see opposing the EVMs today are the exact same ones that were most prolific in the booth-capturing days (not that any party was above it – each had their own areas where they were strong).

    Having said all that — I hope the EC takes their heads out of their *rses, accept the flaws and works with the acaedemic community & manufacturers to close the issues as far as possible instead of such wasteful strong-arm tactics to supress people / information.

    Here’s hoping and wishing …..

  35. Sagar Says:

    This send out all the wrong signals to responsible people wanting to contribute to the government machinery. If we so boisterously claim to be the world’s largest democracy (sic) then Hari Prasad’s arrest shouldn’t be tolerated.

  36. Tejaswy Says:

    Well,
    India is a democratic country, It is not that he will go into a blackhole without a trail.
    In the word of Bhagat Singh who launched the smoke bomb in the british india parliament “if we are caught, there will be a case, if there is a case then there will be a trail, it takes a loud voice to make the deaf hear”
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagat_Singh#Bomb_in_the_assembly

    I am not too worried. Even if he is charged with stealing the EVM, Under IPC Sections 381, It has a small amount to pay as bail. I guess he can afford this amount.
    None the less he has broke the codes and ethics of research,that is if he has indeed stolen the EVM.

    Don’t get me wrong I appreciate the work done by him, But please understand, You just cannot break the law and hope to get away with it even if you are doing it for good.
    This would have been the same case for him if he had stolen a EVM in the US or anyother country.

    I hope that this case brings out the flaw in the voting machine and it will be rectified.
    Ironically BJP has been crying “foul” on the voting machine since they have been incepted.
    http://videos.sify.com/EVMs-have-become-Electronic-Victory-Machines-for-Cong-BJP-ISTREAM-watch-jkwpObhifhe.html

  37. Tejaswy Says:

    I might have got the sections of IPC wrong.

    A website tells me it is Sec 379 of IPC, the punishment goes from 6 months to 7 years.

    You get the point don’t you?

  38. Ajay Says:

    The new sepoy is proving his loyalty to the Queen.

    I humbly repeat, the only way to tackle the stolen mandate of the LS May 2009 elections is to file more number of candidates, way higher than the limit of 64.
    The BEL and ECIL may improve this to 128 . Even then, the major political parties could easily out maneuver this rigged system. A deposit of Rs 10,000 * 128 works out tu less than thirteen lakhs rupees. Are we so naive that we spend lakhs of ruppees to campaign in the assembly and the LS and crores to obtain that elusive “Form A” or the seat and then can’t spend a tiny sum of thirteen lakhs? The friends of the UPA, when they start losing out in the state, will also join the bandwagon. Such manipulation would not be possible in this years Bihar polls, but could surely occur in WB next year, leaving Mamata Banerjee holding a lantern.

    With this action of arresting Shri Hari Prasad, the state of mind of the EC can be clearly seen. Time and era for “Emergency” type measures is up, but the sepoys that be, seem to be stuck in a time warp.

    The opposition must come to the aid of Shri Hari Prasad and rid the nation of this menace of rigged EVMs.

  39. John Gilmore Says:

    Many people who expose insecurity in deployed systems are initially treated like criminals by the people who fielded those systems. However, they usually realize pretty early in the process that they are unlikely to win in front of a jury, and meanwhile the public decides that the authority is merely bullying its critics, possibly to hide its mistakes or to avoid responsibility.

    For example, the Boston MBTA (subway system) sued MIT students who wrote a paper provocatively titled to ride free forever – and even got a judge to suppress their paper. But the security researchers got good lawyers, got the unconstitutional gag order rescinded, and in the end, the MBTA and the students settled the case by agreeing that the students would help the MBTA improve the security of the system. Which was the goal of both sides in the first place.
    See: https://www.eff.org/press/archives/2008/12/22

  40. HVP Urs Says:

    “To call the ECI’s bluff, Hari Prasad and team have demonstrated the tamperability of EVMs on an EVM made available to them.”

    Who provided the EVM?
    When was it done?
    How was it carried out?

    “If the stings done by media are a legitimate method of information gathering, so is this sting demonstration.”

    THEFT cannot be treated in the same category!

    “security researchers to expose vulnerabilities of absurd claims of “perfect” and “tamper proof” electronic voting systems.” – If changes are made to a design – to prove a point; this one is an example.

  41. HVP Urs Says:

    There is another blog, which is equally interesting. link is provided for your perusal. Better sense should prevail.

    “http://blogs.newsx.com/saeednaqvi/2010/06/26/electronic-voting-machines-tamperable/”

  42. HVP Urs Says:

    The following link is another one for your study. A wake up call.

    http://www.webandall.net/education/iit-2009-evtwote-10-panel-on-indias-electronic-voting-machine/

  43. Sameer Says:

    Indian establishment is no different from the British establishment before independence… I was reading about the british rule some days back during Independence day and thought.. our present govt is no less.
    These politicians are sucking the blood out of the people and the only farce of democracy the elections are being hacked away by the corrupt ‘con’gress.
    Hope the voice of people if heard by our sold out media dn pressure put on police to release Mr Hari Prasad and hope the end of EVMs comes soon, I also hope the stupid Quereshi is sacked.

  44. KG Says:

    The research involved had a very fundamental premise that was flawed i.e. that physical access to the EVM is very easy to have, and that tampered EVMs can be taken in and out of government warehouses very easily, and that corrupt officials or criminals with inside access could easily influence the result. Makes for a great academic paper, but in the real world absolutely no system is invulnerable to corrupt insiders, including paper ballots. What the EC has done is to build in multiple checks and balances at various stages to make the system redundant as much as possible. To claim that all of them will fail is a smear job.

    In the western world it will draw a lot of eyeballs, and the narrative of a 3rd world government trying to hide something will immediately catch on. But what has the EC exactly done? Physical protection of the EVM is a cornerstone of the system. And it has filed an FIR against a person who has illegally acquired one. Can IndiaEVM point to any instance of research done to expose the vulnerabilities of EVMs abroad based on illegally acquired hardware?

    If it were so sure that EVMs were vulnerable, then why did it have to resort to illegally breaking the exact system the EC has put in place. India has a functioning judicial system independent of the EC, then why didnt IndiaEVM follow the legal route to get the access it wanted. Demanding improvements to the EVM based process, and illegally acquiring one to make physical hardware alterations are entirely different propositions.

  45. Siva Says:

    I agree that vulnerability in EVM is not good for the country. But I don’t agree returning to paper ballot is a fool proof/Efficient way as well. We need to fix the vulnerabilities and continue. We need to quit complaining about corrupt politicians and bureaucracy. EVM’s security standards must be open and available for public scrutiny. An open standard democratic way to resolve the problem. India is a young country.

  46. Roy Says:

    Please take support of some politicians who are critical of EVMs. For instance Mamata Banerjee is a vocal critic of the EVMs. Hopefully media pressure and support of some politicians will result in Mr Hari Prasad being freed. It is a shameful day for Indian democracy and research mileu.

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  48. Vibhu Says:

    @tejaswy
    Do not talk like a loser.. If things like stealing for good is bad.. then why did we fight for freedom it was against the laws of that time .. be logical don’t try to be Mahatma and preach bullshit here..

    I feel HARI did the right thing.. why dint the government/ ECI itself gave away the machines to hackers and security researchers for researching the loopholes if they were so sure it was tamper proof..coz they wan to keep the tampering secret to themselves so that they can drink and be merry..

  49. kayveeb Says:

    I have read the paper that has been released by the researchers and they have clearly described the EVM architecture and its vulnarabilities,
    The indian government should strive to rectify these shortcomings rather than defending them.

    The arrest of Hari is a pure political action. We all should commend it.

  50. Geeva Says:

    I think the method ramkumar has said will be the useful moderation for EVM. Printing the tickets and dropping it in vote box would be a good suggestion.

  51. Srinivas Says:

    Whoever thought the EVMs cannot be tampered. If you have physical access to the machine, obviously you can tamper it. Ask any network security guy and he would tell you if you have the physical access to your computer not even GOD can save you even you have the best of security mechanisms.
    What guarantee that if you have paper ballots cannot be replaced? The EVMs are as safe or unsafe as paper ballots.
    What you guys should be proving is, during the whole election process how anybody can fiddle with EVMs and get the result in someone’s favor.
    What Hariprasad has done is a mini-project in an engineering course. No great shakes.
    But I am all for any improvement in the system which will help in conducting free and fair elections.

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  53. sgs Says:

    the correct argument is not “how many people have expertise to hack the EVM” that is an incorrect argument. Indian EVM doesn’t have any good footprint to detect fraud. The thing is it should make it uneconomical to hack into EVM. And should have good foot print to detect any possible fraud. people should be able to verify thier votes.

  54. Sad State Says:

    The press report from Times Of India:
    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/Man-who-stole-EVM-in-Mumbai-held-in-Hyderabad/articleshow/6398910.cms

    paints the computer scientist as a thief.

    I don’t think media like Times of India will come to Mr Hari Prasad’s rescue. Who will sponsor ? This is the decade of “Paid News” invented by Times of India themselves.

  55. Pradeepchandar Says:

    story is heard and famous all over. Government should release Hari Immediately and a public apology for these stupid action. Government want to take his advice or not its upto them. He did his job as an Indian citizen and a professional. Screw other things..

  56. GIJoe Says:

    While I do believe that the machines should be made available to researchers to improve the robustness of their design and rectify any flaws, I also believe that all tools have flaws and I do regards EVMs as a step forward. There has to be an authority u got to trust and we have to trust EC in case of elections. Even if the machine is tamper proof in the hands of a corrupt official its useless. The chain is as weak as the weakest link. As far as physical tampering at voting booths is concerned, the sophistication of methods involved almost completly eliminates that option.

  57. baddy Says:

    end of democracy in india…………areest all politicians and kick their butts

  58. настройка strong dc « Эхо блогосферы Says:

    [...] Narasimha Rao пишет: Last week, international experts in computer security have concluded in a workshop held in Washington D.C on August 9 and 10 that the Indian EVMs do not provide the security, verifiability, or transparency adequate for confidence in election ….. Unsurprisingly, the major parties you see opposing the EVMs today are the exact same ones that were most prolific in the booth-capturing days (not that any party was above it – each had their own areas where they were strong) . … [...]

  59. seetharaman Says:

    What surprises me is that electronic media which exposes small time frauds like Common Wealth Games has royally ignored this shocking fruad on the entire Citizenry and perhaps we are being ruled by those who did not win elections by fair means at all. This also shows that these Reasearchers have not given proper publicity to their selfless work. Whatever may be the reason, it is time to go to Supreme Court and expose these Voting Machine Fraud and do everything to make the voting public know about this fraud.

  60. meg Says:

    This is a sad thing, I have come across. As an responsible citizen of INDIA have always felt that my vote counts.Insisted of arresting and making fool, I think it would be better to take inhouse (within country) experts help and make thing better the best!!! Stop wasting everybody’s time, its now the time to work for the betterment.

  61. Truth seeker Says:

    Why is congress and election commission scared?: Look, to generate faith, EC can invite people like Halderman and Hari Prasad and ensure that machines are tamper proof. But strangely, they seem scared.

    The case should be taken to Supreme Court and this whole business of fraud should be exposed.

    I strongly suspect there is EC fraud. We do not want to find this in 10 years are so, when most of these leaders are in their graves.

    Whatever the truth should come out.

  62. P N V Krishnan Says:

    The Blackberries,the Ipads etc are not tamper proof .Then why should the EVM developed in India almost 10 years back, be expected top be tamper proof.
    The EC and the Govt must agree that these machines are not 100% tamper proof. The paper trail is the best .Regarding booth capturing etc , it is prevalent even with the EVMs. Nobody can stop a powerful candidate from capturing the machines and pressing the right buttons any number of times.
    Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty and it is true in any system.

  63. Ganesh Says:

    I have read the report by the three member team on the risks of EVM. one thing i found was that it is not possible to tamper with it without acces to the machine. it is obvious that the moment a fraudster gets access to a machine it is possible to tamper with it. changing the CHIP or the memory devise is possible even in remote circumstances. what you can probably have is an auto delete / auto destroy option if there is any kind of tampering. i am sure there are solutions to it. so the so called VETA / researchers etc can do is not to create panic and aim for cheap publicity.

  64. raj Says:

    The arrest of Hari Prasad had once again proved that ECI has been shook hard and it no more could face the ample evidence shown by experts like hariprasad.. So they have gone to the extent of arresting him.. Such kind of arrest will not intimidate determined persons..

    Some one said, booth capture is not possible in EVM.. they did not understand that in the case of booth capture, the parties need to print so many ballot papers, for the rigging, which costs them enormous, in terms of printing, handling, transporting secretly, capturing the booth and replacing its own rigged votes..

    But in case of EVMs, all one needs is just to change the memory data, which in any way is NOT a difficult task in present world.

    In the case of ballot papers, we can physically verify the ballot papers in case of rigging.. In case of error in counting, each and every vote can be retraced back..

    In case of EVM, this is not possible.. individual vote is NOT physically existing and cannot be verified.. when some one changes memory data before counting, no one can find it or trace back..

    So technically, there is no need for booth capturing in EVMs.. what one needs are access to the place where EVMs are stored, where they can change the memory data, in all the EVMs over night..
    And common sense tells, that it is NOT difficult to get this access, if the ruling party wishes.. Just a small hole in a storehouse, or just few minutes of opening the door to allow conspirators in, who would silently do all the data manipulation and then get back..

    Such a rigging does not need any physical data to handle.. a small piece of electronic device for changing the data is enough, and it can be done by one or two persons..

    The possibility of rigging in EVMs are very largescale and highly sophisticated to be detected by ordinary persons..

    I need not tell about other possibilities, where the data can be rigged even by counting machines..

    But the point is that EVM’s are more potentially riggable..

  65. K.C. Suresh Says:

    EVM is not fools proof is evident from the words of”Last week, international experts in computer security have concluded in a workshop held in Washington D.C on August 9 and 10 that the Indian EVMs do not provide the security, verifiability, or transparency adequate for confidence in election results, the Election Commission of India. (Read the letter here:http://www.usenix.org/events/evtwote10/final-letter-eci.pdf)”.
    ECI must be fair and it should appear like that. Otherwise the whole system will collapse. The perfection always rests at hard disks. So let us go back to the Ballots. No EVM is necessary if there is a 1% error possibility.
    Like Rama the ECI must be fair to Nation. Let your honest, trust worthy, loving Seetha shaped EVM to seperate. That is Indian model of honesty and public interest. Don’t show over enthousiastic trappies, which is not expected from an independent fair and impartial system like ECI.

  66. akshada Says:

    Above information is only half truth.police wants only a name of people who had given machine to him. but he is not ready to dispose name. lator on he said he got machine from shobha Bachhav and her husband from nashik who is working as social activist. police are doing enquiry of these people.
    During election collector has oppointed a retired tahsildar to see all activities related to EVM and 10 outsider temporary people were working under him. they didn’t keep the record.worst thing is all machines were on open ground below one tree whitout any security,infront of collector office mumbai.any one can steal it. collector knew this.Every day she was passing by, she saw it. At that time no one got importance of this machine. and now they are making issue. main thing is while loging complaint she has written, machine was stollen from godown.it may be stollen from open ground.collector transfered to mantralaya as a joint secretory.
    Now present people working in collector office are not taking resposbility. bcoz they were not appointed for EVM. now let me tell who is responsible for this from collector office?

    Present collector has suspended 4 people from collector office just bcoz currently they are working on EVM. how stupid action this is.just to show the ECI that he has taken action. but one of these four one is filed case in court against illegal suspension aganist court.present collector realy did unjustice with these people.
    hari prasad is right in his place. according to police he know the name of person and not telling to police.

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